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    Wednesday, July 01, 2009

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    Lynn in VA

    Hurray for Norma!!! I'm another one of those unpackers. One year I unpacked a box that contained 8 scarves, all red, all in a simple but attractive stitch pattern made up in an inexpensive but soft and cozy yarn. Each scarf was about 15" long. Even a pencil-necked geek could not use those scarves. Why she felt she needed to make eight crappy scarves is beyond me. One nice scarf would have thrilled everyone. I have many more stories like that one, but why depress you even more?

    Norma

    Lynn from VA: This is like the question I saw posted in Ravelry, to the effect of "What size are the kids we are knitting for? Should the scarves be shorter and narrower since it's for kids?" That person has clearly missed the entire fact that these are for college students and is thinking three-year-old orphans at an orphanage. I do think there are a lot of ships passing in the night here, and thus why I wrote this post. Thanks for you input!!!!

    Geri

    Nicely put. We should not assume that these students would except less than we would. We should knit as if we are knitting for ourselves, keeping in mind that we don't know the personal style of the individual, so nothing funky! My yarn is one I love; the pattern: one my husband would wear, too!

    Michele

    While we are at it, how about talking packaging? After knitting a lovely scarf, please wrap with care. If the packaging is "squishable" the scarf is likely to arrive squished.

    Thanks for writing about this Norma!

    Chris

    I have a simple rule which I apply when contemplating what to knit for the Red Scarf Project. I ask myself "Would I knit this for my mother?" That pushes the standard even higher than if I had asked "Would I knit this for myself?" I have selfishly enjoyed every minute knitting scarves with luxurious yarns. Even the finishing process seems more enjoyable when working on a simple but elegant gift for a very special student.

    kathy

    Ultra alpaca or bust!

    Cathy

    I have knitted scarves for several years using DK weight quality wool yarn in deep reds - usually using the "yarnharlot's" slip stitch scarf pattern. Makes a nice unisex scarf. But I have never received an acknowledgement from the OFA that they even received the scarves. So this year, I didn't knit any. I don't expect a thank-you note - just a postcard acknowledging receipt.

    Carole

    I'm planning mine now. I've got some beautiful dark red ultra alpaca and I'm going to knit Maryse's Gathered Scarf. I think that's pretty unisex.
    Great post, Norma. I know you struggled with this.

    AnnaMarie

    I don't think it's unreasonable to have standards for charity items. It does no good to have 1/2 of the submissions discarded because of unsuitability, that defeats the purpose of it all and just fills a landfill somewhere.

    Now I'm going to have to see what I have in red yarn, probably Handmaiden or Fleece Artist or even Blue Moon and start a scarf.

    It's not just for the young adults, it's for Norma!

    Vicki

    It's not just red scarves, either, folks... I was appalled at the "quality" of donated chemo caps my sister had to choose from at the wig/chemo cap place in the hospital. I was EMBARRASSED at the selection of caps, the choices of fiber/color, the incredibly poor workmanship. Why freakin' bother? Acrylic, I can understand... easy care and all that... but with a strand of metallic glittery scratchy crap running through it? Or just plain glitter? I don't understand how people can feel good about donating shit like that.

    By the way, this post barely blipped on the screech-o-meter, in my opinion. I've heard better from you. ; ) There's room for more, if needed... hopefully, it won't be needed. You certainly got me fired up!

    jessica~

    Good post Norma. I'd say this goes for every charity knit we create.

    Anne

    Great summary post, m'dear - as one would expect from you, the Scarf Lorax. You might also mention that, for those people participating in PS4, the next 2 months' color is RED. Perfect time to make a nice, unisex, DK-ish weight scarf or scarves that someone will really really love.

    Jennifer

    Norma - I hear you! I have a suggestion that might help. Perhaps you could offer a few suggestions of patterns for unisex scarves that would be popular. I know in my charity knitting endeavors, that many people want to help, but don't really know HOW to help. Many people just need to be told what to knit. Perhaps a dozen or so free patterns might be helpful. If you like - (it's OK if you don't like the pattern) you would want to use my Mistake Rib Scarf as an option. Here's the link - http://www.ravelry.com/patterns/library/mistake-rib-scarf-4 (Of course, I made this for a purple project, so it's purple, not red).

    Good luck! I hope you get lots and lots of scarves.

    On the same note, perhaps you can suggest some yarns that are big hits. I'm kind of on a Comfort kick for children's knits as it's soft, not itchy, not expensive and seems (so far at least) to wear well). Of course, people will knit what they have, but it might help some others who really don't have their own ideas.

    People (even generous knitters) are intrinsically lazy, so the more you spell out for them, the better chance you should have for a successful campaign.

    Good luck, good luck, good luck!

    AnitaMay

    De-lurking to say, how hard can this be? If we can read & decipher knit and crochet patterns, certainly we can all understand the guidelines for the red scarf project AND how hard is it to grasp that a "college student" is more than likely NOT a young child? I'm in Norma, I will gladly interupt my knitting plan for the year (not that hard, it gets interrupted regularly, FPS)to take part in this event.

    claudia

    I would have liked more rant (just for entertainment's sake) but, nicely done.

    Cheryl S.

    Sometimes, ya gotta be cruel to be kind.
    You go, girl!

    elizabeth a airhart

    thank you
    i use berroco comfort tne medium worsted is soft
    and silky -i just tried folding it fits nicely
    i am useing the wild beet color as of now
    i also use harlots pattern in comfort

    free patterns are on the site lily chin too

    gayles pictures are beautiful show the fine people
    we knit for

    Gerrie

    Good post. I am, however, wondering how I'm supposed to mail the scarf after reading the above comment about things arriving squished. You want me to mail this scarf in a cardboard box? If that is the case, be clear about that. I rolled mine (I think it was actually two), tied on the tag.

    Also, I thought at one point, it was OK not to be red? Now you only want red? Ok, that's fine.

    Ditto on the non-receipt of any acknowledgment on my good wool, appropriate size, scarf (scarves?) just-like-I'd-give-my-mother scarf. It doesn't matter but your unpacker comments made it sound like they were all acknowledged.

    I didn't knit after the first year because it seemed the project had more than they could deal with. Willing to try again,

    Gerrie

    Cookie

    I'm sorry it's come to this, but thank you for talking about this issue. Ever since I heard about that girl scout troop that was cranking them out, I knew there was trouble. It's such a shame that people don't consider who they are knitting for when charity knitting and never think that those people deserve something nice.

    It's also a shame that people need to have their egos stroked and be praised to high heaven for knitting a scarf. Whatever happened to doing good deeds for the sake of helping someone else without getting an award? Do those people not realize how busy the Red Scarf folks are? Personally, I know how to send a package properly and do not require thanks or fawning praise for helping out. Knowing that my scarf helped someone is more than enough for me.

    Seanna Lea

    I think Chris has the right idea. Knit them like you are knitting for your mother or maybe your picky brother who has a definite idea of style. Knit what you would want to receive. Something classy, but not too hard to care for, washed and blocked.

    I am never certain which scarf patterns would be appropriate for this endeavor. Heck, even a picture of a photo op scarf or usable scarf would be heavenly. I know I will have an easier idea picking an appropriate pattern if I see a pattern that has already been approved (without picking the same pattern and given them 10 copies of the same scarf).

    marianne

    Yes, Norma, I will.
    As to the yarn... isn't it supposed to be a washable, as in machine washable? a superwash? Didn't I read that somewhere?
    I'm with Vicki on the screech factor :^) and totally appalled reading about some of the 'scarves' sent in. WTF?!?!?

    Nannette

    I'm in for scarf knitting! And yes, I can abide by the rules. Makes me NUTSO when folks can't! I do have a yarn choice question: Is wool ok? Would it need to be superwash? Do we hafta do ack-rylic?

    grace

    I agree with Seanna Lea if we could get some pattern suggestions then we can decide on what is acceptable and what is taboo. I have some lovely red alpaca too, just deciding on the pattern

    Lynn

    Well, I'm bummed. I finally managed to knit a gorgeous, soft, cushy, warm, thick scarf before the deadline for this project, but it is pink and it is bulky and now I find out that they don't want it. I thought that it was close enough to red and for heaven's sake, how many males are named Debbie, or Kathryn or Louann? Yes, not every female likes pink, but not all of them like red either.

    I will spare you the scarf and give it to my pink loving friend.

    My grumpiness does not reflect on the organization or the purpose of the group. I can understand their guidlines and why they are set up that way. In our city, we sponsored the International Special Olympics last winter and they asked people to make light blue and white scarves for all the participants with the recommended Red Heart acrylic yarn. They needed (and got) about 3,000 of them. I saw so many awful blue and white scarves over the months preceeding the event that my cringe factor was overloaded. But the recipients loved them.

    I will read the directions more carefully next time.

    Manise

    Well said Norma. I saw your post on Rav yesterday. I concur with our Cookie.

    Lynn in VA

    Here's a note for those of you who never received an acknowledgement of your scarves. Many of the packages do not have legible return address information! And sometimes packages get damaged in the mail. And this is all done by VOLUNTEERS who sometimes make mistakes. Please don't take it personally. You should see the piles of packages that come in.

    And I'm not sure what the comment about "squished" scarves meant. Unless the scarf is so stiff it's going to a pet shelter, it will recover from being squished in an envelope. I'd use a sturdy, padded envelope, though. If the envelope gets torn the scarf could be damaged and everyone would hate that.

    FWIW I am most definitely NOT speaking on behalf of the OFA. I'm just another volunteer speaking from my own experience.

    Doris

    Well written, Norma. Having helped pack care packages last October, although it wasn't the scarf packages, I realized just what an enormous operation getting those packages out really is. Our packages contained books, and it was a real challenge to decide whether they were "boy" books or "girl" books and then get them in the boxes for the right gender. It is much easier when they are unisex and don't require a whole lot of gender specific sortWell written, Norma. Having helped pack care packages last October, although it wasn't the scarf packages, I realized just what an enormous operation getting those packages out really is. Our packages contained books, and it was a real challenge to decide whether they were "boy" books or "girl" books and then get them in the boxes for the right gender. It is much easier when they are unisex and don't require a whole lot of gender specific sorting. I think anyone who has ever seen the assembly line and sheer number of FedEx boxes (they are stacked floor to ceiling across an entire wall of a very large room, several layers deep)would immediately understand the challenges.
    My scarf(s) will be started shortly.

    Debbie

    What a well written post! For several years I volunteered for a community holiday food drive. My job was to check expiration dates on food and throw out whatever was expired. On some days, I had to discard entire cartons of food and a lot of food was years past the expiration date. I believe that if you are donating something, give what you would give to your family or friends.

    Erika

    Yay, Norma! that's why we love you.

    It's perfectly legitimate to specify that the Red Scarf Project is for intermediate/advanced knitting projects only. Beginning knitters should take this as a challenge to stretch their abilities, take stock of their skills, evaluate their knitting with a critical eye, and aim for a really fantastic finished product. The truth is that not every knitted item is a special snowflake.

    I know that I'm guilty of having sent some pretty awful stuff to charities when I was a beginning knitter. Sometimes I think as penance I should set up a Home For All Knitted Objects.

    Not sure what to do with that lopsided hat with all the accidental YOs? Send it to the HFAKO, where it will "run free with its friends" and "live out its years in happiness."

    Heidi

    Very nicely written. Some times we all need to be reminded to do the right thing.

    Cyndy

    Well said. I could have tolerated a bit more screeching and sarcasm!! Just kidding.

    Birdsong

    I didn't hear much sarcasm, just a well-put explanation of what has been going awry. You know me, I'd rather hear the truth any day than someone mamby-pambying around it. I have some nice, red yarns that will get my attention, just as soon as my Circle Vest for the fair is done!

    janna

    Well put, Norma, although I have to say I'm a little appalled at the description of some of the scarves. Also-- I definitely received an acknowledgement this past year -- it's still hanging on my kitchen bulletin board -- and I think I did the year before, too.

    Sarah

    You stated this all very well, Norma. I feel a bit disheartened that it is necessary to list some of the guidelines, but would rather see them stated clearly for those that need them. The comments from volunteers really underscore what and why so many of the donations have been inappropriate.

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